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I have to admit technicals seems good enough but I really believe it's far from over 
Gold and Silver still under strict management (too much for imagining them letting it rise from there) 
Problem also is that better opportunities could be very fast to appear and disappear 
When they will step aside there could be huge volatility 9/1/16

The Goldcorp chart worries me. It's just kissed the underside of the 200 d.m.a which looks bearish. 9/1/16

Ya and regarding the relative value of g and s miners to metals I would prefer buy the metal itself if it's an investment(no leverage and physically backed) 
That's what I do 
I only have physical for now and waiting to buy PHYS or PSLV 
some good miners isn't a bad idea but you have to know your subjects in details 9/1/16

When I said far I meant price but not time 
 
I think they will run out of time rapidly from now 
 
That's one of the reasons I expect a deflationary wave like 2008 (stocks and comodities collapsing) but very different in amplitude time and liquidity 9/1/16

That's not an unreasonable thesis. But wouldn't it be nice, just once, to ride PMs from as close to the bottom with decent leverage. 9/1/16

I know but they are traded like currencies and manipulated by banksters 
 
What was the other manipulated/unsustainable currency that melt up when they had to stop? 
CHF/EUR 
 
I expect the same thing on precious metals but in both directions 
 
leverage 9/1/16

leverage is a big risk I don't want to take in these manipulated and illiquid markets 9/1/16

ISVLF is at 73 cents! It was in the mid 50s last week. 9/6/16